>So yes, totally agree with you, but also different skills have different perceptions of "must have this much talent to attempt."
This is valid; I still think your writing massively understates the size of the effect that my brain registers as "talent" - on some level, I register talent as being the thing which decides what your hobby is - I can't really understand the idea that you'd do an activity for reasons other than having a note in your heart which says "This Is A Thing You Do", as least as far as hobbies go. No amount of lecturing me about how it only takes practice to get good at art is ever going to make me good at art, because I lack the spark that makes it *easy to set aside time to spend on art*. Which means I will never practice drawing. Whereas I will practice e.g. TTRPGS or reading or writing because I spend time doing and thinking about and talking about those. I'm specifically rebelling against the lesson that you can just get good at a thing by trying a lot, because "having the ability to try a lot" is not something everyone has for every skill. This is ... maybe a little bit of one of those cases where you have multiple different lessons that need to be taught to different people at different stages of their life; you need to be reminded that the hard bits get better if you keep going but I want to remind people that it's also kinda wrong to imply that the only reason people aren't all good artists is some mix of ignorance and sloth (which is how those reminders start to feel when they're the only art advice that you, a non-artist, ever see).
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This is valid; I still think your writing massively understates the size of the effect that my brain registers as "talent" - on some level, I register talent as being the thing which decides what your hobby is - I can't really understand the idea that you'd do an activity for reasons other than having a note in your heart which says "This Is A Thing You Do", as least as far as hobbies go. No amount of lecturing me about how it only takes practice to get good at art is ever going to make me good at art, because I lack the spark that makes it *easy to set aside time to spend on art*. Which means I will never practice drawing. Whereas I will practice e.g. TTRPGS or reading or writing because I spend time doing and thinking about and talking about those. I'm specifically rebelling against the lesson that you can just get good at a thing by trying a lot, because "having the ability to try a lot" is not something everyone has for every skill. This is ... maybe a little bit of one of those cases where you have multiple different lessons that need to be taught to different people at different stages of their life; you need to be reminded that the hard bits get better if you keep going but I want to remind people that it's also kinda wrong to imply that the only reason people aren't all good artists is some mix of ignorance and sloth (which is how those reminders start to feel when they're the only art advice that you, a non-artist, ever see).